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If Starmer fails -- which he probably will -- then many people will decide that both Tories and Labour have failed. In this situation, many in England will turn to Farage. And many in Scotland will turn to independence. And, given the way Westminster has treated Scotland since the last indyref, we a very likely to win.

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Just a lot of tedious platitudes from Starmer re the EU. Very timid. Set on placating the right wing media, Reform in England. Nothing for Scotland as yin rightly point out.

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Yes, very timid. The most generous interpretation would be to say he wants to make friendly EU relations normal and then do more but given his red lines, and EU ones, looks v. limited.

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